"論外" meaning in Japanese

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Adjective

IPA: [ɾõ̞ŋɡa̠i]
Etymology: /ronɡwai/ → /ronɡai/ Probably from Middle Chinese compound 論外/论外 (lwonᴴ ngwajᴴ, literally “discussion + outside”). Alternately, may be a Japanese coinage from Middle Chinese-derived elements, as a compound of 論 (ron, “argument; theory”) + 外 (gai, “outside”). Etymology templates: {{der|ja|ltc|-|sort=ろんがい}} Middle Chinese, {{cog|ltc|-}} Middle Chinese, {{compound|ja|論|外|sort=ろんがい|t1=argument; theory|t2=outside|tr1=ron|tr2=gai}} 論 (ron, “argument; theory”) + 外 (gai, “outside”) Head templates: {{ja-adj|ろんがい|hhira=ろんぐわい|infl=na}} 論(ろん)外(がい) • (rongai) ^(←ろんぐわい (rongwai)?)-na (adnominal 論(ろん)外(がい)な (rongai na), adverbial 論(ろん)外(がい)に (rongai ni)) Inflection templates: {{ja-adj-infl|adverbial=. に|attributive=. な|conditional=. なら(ば)|conjunctive=. で|continuative=. で|degree=さ|formal=. です|formal_negative=. で は ありません|formal_negative2=. じゃ ありません|formal_negative_past=. で は ありません でした|formal_negative_past2=. じゃ ありません でした|formal_past=. でした|hypothetical=. なら|imperative=. で あれ|imperfective=. だろ|informal_negative=. で は ない|informal_negative2=. じゃ ない|informal_negative_past=. で は なかった|informal_negative_past2=. じゃ なかった|informal_past=. だった|kana=ろんがい|lemma=論外|provisional=. だったら|terminal=. だ|volitional=. だろう}} Forms: 論外 [canonical] (ruby: (ろん), (がい)), rongai [romanization], rongwai [romanization], 論外な [adnominal] (ruby: (ろん), (がい)), 論外に [adverbial] (ruby: (ろん), (がい)), no-table-tags [table-tags], 論外だろ [imperfective, stem], ろんがいだろ [imperfective, stem], rongai daro [imperfective], 論外で [continuative, stem], ろんがいで [continuative, stem], rongai de [continuative], 論外だ [stem, terminative], ろんがいだ [stem, terminative], rongai da [terminative], 論外な [attributive, stem], ろんがいな [attributive, stem], rongai na [attributive], 論外なら [hypothetical, stem], ろんがいなら [hypothetical, stem], rongai nara [hypothetical], 論外であれ [imperative, stem], ろんがいであれ [imperative, stem], rongai de are [imperative], 論外ではない [informal, negative], 論外じゃない [informal, negative], ろんがいではない [informal, negative], ろんがいじゃない [informal, negative], rongai de wa nai [informal, negative], rongai ja nai [informal, negative], 論外だった [informal, past], ろんがいだった [informal, past], rongai datta [informal, past], 論外ではなかった [informal, negative, past], 論外じゃなかった [informal, negative, past], ろんがいではなかった [informal, negative, past], ろんがいじゃなかった [informal, negative, past], rongai de wa nakatta [informal, negative, past], rongai ja nakatta [informal, negative, past], 論外です [formal], ろんがいです [formal], rongai desu [formal], 論外ではありません [formal, negative], 論外じゃありません [formal, negative], ろんがいではありません [formal, negative], ろんがいじゃありません [formal, negative], rongai de wa arimasen [formal, negative], rongai ja arimasen [formal, negative], 論外でした [formal, past], ろんがいでした [formal, past], rongai deshita [formal, past], 論外ではありませんでした [formal, negative, past], 論外じゃありませんでした [formal, negative, past], ろんがいではありませんでした [formal, negative, past], ろんがいじゃありませんでした [formal, negative, past], rongai de wa arimasen deshita [formal, negative, past], rongai ja arimasen deshita [formal, negative, past], 論外で [conjunctive], ろんがいで [conjunctive], rongai de [conjunctive], 論外なら(ば) [conditional], ろんがいなら(ば) [conditional], rongai nara (ba) [conditional], 論外だったら [conditional, past], ろんがいだったら [conditional, past], rongai dattara [conditional, past], 論外だろう [volitional], ろんがいだろう [volitional], rongai darō [volitional], 論外に [adverbial], ろんがいに [adverbial], rongai ni [adverbial], 論外さ [noun-from-adj], ろんがいさ [noun-from-adj], rongaisa [noun-from-adj]
  1. irrelevant, beside the point, out of the question
    Sense id: en-論外-ja-adj-BIPf096Z

Noun

IPA: [ɾõ̞ŋɡa̠i] Forms: 論外 [canonical] (ruby: (ろん), (がい)), rongai [romanization], rongwai [romanization], ろんぐわい [hiragana, historical]
Etymology: /ronɡwai/ → /ronɡai/ Probably from Middle Chinese compound 論外/论外 (lwonᴴ ngwajᴴ, literally “discussion + outside”). Alternately, may be a Japanese coinage from Middle Chinese-derived elements, as a compound of 論 (ron, “argument; theory”) + 外 (gai, “outside”). Etymology templates: {{der|ja|ltc|-|sort=ろんがい}} Middle Chinese, {{cog|ltc|-}} Middle Chinese, {{compound|ja|論|外|sort=ろんがい|t1=argument; theory|t2=outside|tr1=ron|tr2=gai}} 論 (ron, “argument; theory”) + 外 (gai, “outside”) Head templates: {{ja-noun|ろんがい|hhira=ろんぐわい}} 論(ろん)外(がい) • (rongai) ^(←ろんぐわい (rongwai)?)
  1. something outside the scope of discussion, something that is off-topic
    Sense id: en-論外-ja-noun-WslM9m0i Categories (other): Japanese entries with incorrect language header, Japanese links with redundant alt parameters, Japanese links with redundant wikilinks, Japanese terms with non-redundant manual transliterations, Japanese terms with non-redundant non-automated sortkeys, Japanese terms with redundant sortkeys Disambiguation of Japanese entries with incorrect language header: 5 95 Disambiguation of Japanese links with redundant alt parameters: 6 94 Disambiguation of Japanese links with redundant wikilinks: 6 94 Disambiguation of Japanese terms with non-redundant manual transliterations: 22 78 Disambiguation of Japanese terms with non-redundant non-automated sortkeys: 24 76 Disambiguation of Japanese terms with redundant sortkeys: 6 94

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      "form": "rongai na",
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      "form": "論外なら",
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      "form": "rongai nara",
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      "form": "論外であれ",
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      "form": "ろんがいであれ",
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      "form": "rongai de are",
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    {
      "form": "論外ではない",
      "source": "inflection",
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      "form": "論外じゃない",
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      "form": "ろんがいじゃない",
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    {
      "form": "rongai de wa nai",
      "source": "inflection",
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        "negative"
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    {
      "form": "rongai ja nai",
      "source": "inflection",
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        "informal",
        "negative"
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    {
      "form": "論外だった",
      "source": "inflection",
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        "past"
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    {
      "form": "ろんがいだった",
      "source": "inflection",
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        "past"
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      "form": "rongai datta",
      "source": "inflection",
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      "form": "論外ではなかった",
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        "negative",
        "past"
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    {
      "form": "rongai ja nakatta",
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    {
      "form": "論外です",
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    {
      "form": "rongai desu",
      "source": "inflection",
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      "form": "rongai de wa arimasen",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
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        "negative"
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    },
    {
      "form": "rongai ja arimasen",
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      "tags": [
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      "form": "論外でした",
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      "form": "rongai deshita",
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      "tags": [
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        "past"
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    {
      "form": "論外ではありませんでした",
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      "tags": [
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        "past"
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      "form": "論外じゃありませんでした",
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      "form": "ろんがいではありませんでした",
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    {
      "form": "rongai ja arimasen deshita",
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    {
      "form": "論外で",
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      "tags": [
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    {
      "form": "ろんがいで",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
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    },
    {
      "form": "rongai de",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "conjunctive"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外なら(ば)",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "conditional"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいなら(ば)",
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      "tags": [
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      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai nara (ba)",
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    },
    {
      "form": "論外だったら",
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      "tags": [
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        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいだったら",
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      "tags": [
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      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai dattara",
      "source": "inflection",
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        "conditional",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外だろう",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "volitional"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいだろう",
      "source": "inflection",
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      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai darō",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "volitional"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外に",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "adverbial"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいに",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "adverbial"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai ni",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "adverbial"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外さ",
      "source": "inflection",
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      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいさ",
      "source": "inflection",
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      "form": "rongaisa",
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        "attributive": ". な",
        "conditional": ". なら(ば)",
        "conjunctive": ". で",
        "continuative": ". で",
        "degree": "さ",
        "formal": ". です",
        "formal_negative": ". で は ありません",
        "formal_negative2": ". じゃ ありません",
        "formal_negative_past": ". で は ありません でした",
        "formal_negative_past2": ". じゃ ありません でした",
        "formal_past": ". でした",
        "hypothetical": ". なら",
        "imperative": ". で あれ",
        "imperfective": ". だろ",
        "informal_negative": ". で は ない",
        "informal_negative2": ". じゃ ない",
        "informal_negative_past": ". で は なかった",
        "informal_negative_past2": ". じゃ なかった",
        "informal_past": ". だった",
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          "irrelevant"
        ],
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          "beside the point",
          "beside the point"
        ],
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          "out of the question"
        ]
      ]
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      "other": "ろんがい"
    },
    {
      "other": "ろんがい"
    },
    {
      "ipa": "[ɾõ̞ŋɡa̠i]"
    }
  ],
  "wikipedia": [
    "Daijisen",
    "Kyōsuke Kindaichi",
    "Shogakukan",
    "Tōkyō",
    "ja:大辞林",
    "ja:大辞泉",
    "ja:新明解国語辞典",
    "ja:松村明"
  ],
  "word": "論外"
}

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        ]
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        "canonical"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai",
      "tags": [
        "romanization"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongwai",
      "tags": [
        "romanization"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんぐわい",
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        "historical"
      ]
    }
  ],
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    {
      "args": {
        "1": "ろんがい",
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      },
      "expansion": "論(ろん)外(がい) • (rongai) ^(←ろんぐわい (rongwai)?)",
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    }
  ],
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  "lang_code": "ja",
  "pos": "noun",
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    {
      "categories": [
        {
          "_dis": "5 95",
          "kind": "other",
          "name": "Japanese entries with incorrect language header",
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          "_dis": "6 94",
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        },
        {
          "_dis": "6 94",
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        },
        {
          "_dis": "22 78",
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        {
          "_dis": "24 76",
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          "_dis": "6 94",
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      ],
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        {
          "english": "an opinion that is off-topic, an irrelevant opinion",
          "roman": "rongai no iken",
          "ruby": [
            [
              "論外",
              "ろんがい"
            ],
            [
              "意見",
              "いけん"
            ]
          ],
          "text": "論外の意見"
        }
      ],
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      ],
      "id": "en-論外-ja-noun-WslM9m0i",
      "links": [
        [
          "outside",
          "outside"
        ],
        [
          "scope",
          "scope"
        ],
        [
          "discussion",
          "discussion"
        ],
        [
          "off-topic",
          "off-topic"
        ]
      ]
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      "other": "ろんがい"
    },
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      "other": "ろんがい"
    },
    {
      "ipa": "[ɾõ̞ŋɡa̠i]"
    }
  ],
  "word": "論外"
}
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    "Japanese compound terms",
    "Japanese entries with incorrect language header",
    "Japanese lemmas",
    "Japanese links with redundant alt parameters",
    "Japanese links with redundant wikilinks",
    "Japanese nouns",
    "Japanese terms derived from Middle Chinese",
    "Japanese terms spelled with second grade kanji",
    "Japanese terms spelled with sixth grade kanji",
    "Japanese terms with IPA pronunciation",
    "Japanese terms with non-redundant manual transliterations",
    "Japanese terms with non-redundant non-automated sortkeys",
    "Japanese terms with redundant sortkeys",
    "Japanese terms written with two Han script characters",
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      "name": "der"
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    {
      "args": {
        "1": "ltc",
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    {
      "args": {
        "1": "ja",
        "2": "論",
        "3": "外",
        "sort": "ろんがい",
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    {
      "form": "論外",
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          "論",
          "ろん"
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          "外",
          "がい"
        ]
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    {
      "form": "rongai",
      "tags": [
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      ]
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    {
      "form": "rongwai",
      "tags": [
        "romanization"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外な",
      "roman": "rongai na",
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        [
          "論",
          "ろん"
        ],
        [
          "外",
          "がい"
        ]
      ],
      "tags": [
        "adnominal"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外に",
      "roman": "rongai ni",
      "ruby": [
        [
          "論",
          "ろん"
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        [
          "外",
          "がい"
        ]
      ],
      "tags": [
        "adverbial"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "no-table-tags",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "table-tags"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ja-na",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "inflection-template"
      ]
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    {
      "form": "論外だろ",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "imperfective",
        "stem"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいだろ",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "imperfective",
        "stem"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai daro",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "imperfective"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外で",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "continuative",
        "stem"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいで",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "continuative",
        "stem"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai de",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "continuative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外だ",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "stem",
        "terminative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいだ",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "stem",
        "terminative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai da",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "terminative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外な",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "attributive",
        "stem"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいな",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "attributive",
        "stem"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai na",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "attributive"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外なら",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "hypothetical",
        "stem"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいなら",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "hypothetical",
        "stem"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai nara",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "hypothetical"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外であれ",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "imperative",
        "stem"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいであれ",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "imperative",
        "stem"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai de are",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "imperative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外ではない",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "informal",
        "negative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外じゃない",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "informal",
        "negative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいではない",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "informal",
        "negative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいじゃない",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "informal",
        "negative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai de wa nai",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "informal",
        "negative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai ja nai",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "informal",
        "negative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外だった",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "informal",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいだった",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "informal",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai datta",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "informal",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外ではなかった",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "informal",
        "negative",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外じゃなかった",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "informal",
        "negative",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいではなかった",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "informal",
        "negative",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいじゃなかった",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "informal",
        "negative",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai de wa nakatta",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "informal",
        "negative",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai ja nakatta",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "informal",
        "negative",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外です",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいです",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai desu",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外ではありません",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal",
        "negative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外じゃありません",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal",
        "negative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいではありません",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal",
        "negative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいじゃありません",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal",
        "negative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai de wa arimasen",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal",
        "negative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai ja arimasen",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal",
        "negative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外でした",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいでした",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai deshita",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外ではありませんでした",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal",
        "negative",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外じゃありませんでした",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal",
        "negative",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいではありませんでした",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal",
        "negative",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいじゃありませんでした",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal",
        "negative",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai de wa arimasen deshita",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal",
        "negative",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai ja arimasen deshita",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "formal",
        "negative",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外で",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "conjunctive"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいで",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "conjunctive"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai de",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "conjunctive"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外なら(ば)",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "conditional"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいなら(ば)",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "conditional"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai nara (ba)",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "conditional"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外だったら",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "conditional",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいだったら",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "conditional",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai dattara",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "conditional",
        "past"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外だろう",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "volitional"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいだろう",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "volitional"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai darō",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "volitional"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外に",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "adverbial"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいに",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "adverbial"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai ni",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "adverbial"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "論外さ",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "noun-from-adj"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんがいさ",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "noun-from-adj"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongaisa",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "noun-from-adj"
      ]
    }
  ],
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    {
      "args": {
        "1": "ろんがい",
        "hhira": "ろんぐわい",
        "infl": "na"
      },
      "expansion": "論(ろん)外(がい) • (rongai) ^(←ろんぐわい (rongwai)?)-na (adnominal 論(ろん)外(がい)な (rongai na), adverbial 論(ろん)外(がい)に (rongai ni))",
      "name": "ja-adj"
    }
  ],
  "inflection_templates": [
    {
      "args": {
        "adverbial": ". に",
        "attributive": ". な",
        "conditional": ". なら(ば)",
        "conjunctive": ". で",
        "continuative": ". で",
        "degree": "さ",
        "formal": ". です",
        "formal_negative": ". で は ありません",
        "formal_negative2": ". じゃ ありません",
        "formal_negative_past": ". で は ありません でした",
        "formal_negative_past2": ". じゃ ありません でした",
        "formal_past": ". でした",
        "hypothetical": ". なら",
        "imperative": ". で あれ",
        "imperfective": ". だろ",
        "informal_negative": ". で は ない",
        "informal_negative2": ". じゃ ない",
        "informal_negative_past": ". で は なかった",
        "informal_negative_past2": ". じゃ なかった",
        "informal_past": ". だった",
        "kana": "ろんがい",
        "lemma": "論外",
        "provisional": ". だったら",
        "terminal": ". だ",
        "volitional": ". だろう"
      },
      "name": "ja-adj-infl"
    }
  ],
  "lang": "Japanese",
  "lang_code": "ja",
  "pos": "adj",
  "senses": [
    {
      "glosses": [
        "irrelevant, beside the point, out of the question"
      ],
      "links": [
        [
          "irrelevant",
          "irrelevant"
        ],
        [
          "beside the point",
          "beside the point"
        ],
        [
          "out of the question",
          "out of the question"
        ]
      ]
    }
  ],
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    {
      "other": "ろんがい"
    },
    {
      "other": "ろんがい"
    },
    {
      "ipa": "[ɾõ̞ŋɡa̠i]"
    }
  ],
  "wikipedia": [
    "Daijisen",
    "Kyōsuke Kindaichi",
    "Shogakukan",
    "Tōkyō",
    "ja:大辞林",
    "ja:大辞泉",
    "ja:新明解国語辞典",
    "ja:松村明"
  ],
  "word": "論外"
}

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    "Japanese compound terms",
    "Japanese entries with incorrect language header",
    "Japanese lemmas",
    "Japanese links with redundant alt parameters",
    "Japanese links with redundant wikilinks",
    "Japanese nouns",
    "Japanese terms derived from Middle Chinese",
    "Japanese terms spelled with second grade kanji",
    "Japanese terms spelled with sixth grade kanji",
    "Japanese terms with IPA pronunciation",
    "Japanese terms with non-redundant manual transliterations",
    "Japanese terms with non-redundant non-automated sortkeys",
    "Japanese terms with redundant sortkeys",
    "Japanese terms written with two Han script characters",
    "Japanese な-na adjectives"
  ],
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      "args": {
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        "sort": "ろんがい"
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      "name": "der"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "ltc",
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      },
      "expansion": "Middle Chinese",
      "name": "cog"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "ja",
        "2": "論",
        "3": "外",
        "sort": "ろんがい",
        "t1": "argument; theory",
        "t2": "outside",
        "tr1": "ron",
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      },
      "expansion": "論 (ron, “argument; theory”) + 外 (gai, “outside”)",
      "name": "compound"
    }
  ],
  "etymology_text": "/ronɡwai/ → /ronɡai/\nProbably from Middle Chinese compound 論外/论外 (lwonᴴ ngwajᴴ, literally “discussion + outside”).\nAlternately, may be a Japanese coinage from Middle Chinese-derived elements, as a compound of 論 (ron, “argument; theory”) + 外 (gai, “outside”).",
  "forms": [
    {
      "form": "論外",
      "ruby": [
        [
          "論",
          "ろん"
        ],
        [
          "外",
          "がい"
        ]
      ],
      "tags": [
        "canonical"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongai",
      "tags": [
        "romanization"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "rongwai",
      "tags": [
        "romanization"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "ろんぐわい",
      "roman": "rongwai",
      "tags": [
        "hiragana",
        "historical"
      ]
    }
  ],
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    {
      "args": {
        "1": "ろんがい",
        "hhira": "ろんぐわい"
      },
      "expansion": "論(ろん)外(がい) • (rongai) ^(←ろんぐわい (rongwai)?)",
      "name": "ja-noun"
    }
  ],
  "lang": "Japanese",
  "lang_code": "ja",
  "pos": "noun",
  "senses": [
    {
      "categories": [
        "Japanese terms with usage examples"
      ],
      "examples": [
        {
          "english": "an opinion that is off-topic, an irrelevant opinion",
          "roman": "rongai no iken",
          "ruby": [
            [
              "論外",
              "ろんがい"
            ],
            [
              "意見",
              "いけん"
            ]
          ],
          "text": "論外の意見"
        }
      ],
      "glosses": [
        "something outside the scope of discussion, something that is off-topic"
      ],
      "links": [
        [
          "outside",
          "outside"
        ],
        [
          "scope",
          "scope"
        ],
        [
          "discussion",
          "discussion"
        ],
        [
          "off-topic",
          "off-topic"
        ]
      ]
    }
  ],
  "sounds": [
    {
      "other": "ろんがい"
    },
    {
      "other": "ろんがい"
    },
    {
      "ipa": "[ɾõ̞ŋɡa̠i]"
    }
  ],
  "word": "論外"
}
{
  "called_from": "parser/304",
  "msg": "HTML tag <span> not properly closed",
  "path": [
    "論外"
  ],
  "section": "Japanese",
  "subsection": "adjective",
  "title": "論外",
  "trace": "started on line 2, detected on line 2"
}

{
  "called_from": "parser/1336",
  "msg": "no corresponding start tag found for </span>",
  "path": [
    "論外"
  ],
  "section": "Japanese",
  "subsection": "adjective",
  "title": "論外",
  "trace": ""
}

{
  "called_from": "parser/304",
  "msg": "HTML tag <span> not properly closed",
  "path": [
    "論外"
  ],
  "section": "Japanese",
  "subsection": "noun",
  "title": "論外",
  "trace": "started on line 2, detected on line 2"
}

{
  "called_from": "parser/1336",
  "msg": "no corresponding start tag found for </span>",
  "path": [
    "論外"
  ],
  "section": "Japanese",
  "subsection": "noun",
  "title": "論外",
  "trace": ""
}

This page is a part of the kaikki.org machine-readable Japanese dictionary. This dictionary is based on structured data extracted on 2024-06-04 from the enwiktionary dump dated 2024-05-02 using wiktextract (e9e0a99 and db5a844). The data shown on this site has been post-processed and various details (e.g., extra categories) removed, some information disambiguated, and additional data merged from other sources. See the raw data download page for the unprocessed wiktextract data.

If you use this data in academic research, please cite Tatu Ylonen: Wiktextract: Wiktionary as Machine-Readable Structured Data, Proceedings of the 13th Conference on Language Resources and Evaluation (LREC), pp. 1317-1325, Marseille, 20-25 June 2022. Linking to the relevant page(s) under https://kaikki.org would also be greatly appreciated.