"se" meaning in Proto-Finnic

See se in All languages combined, or Wiktionary

Determiner

Etymology: From Proto-Uralic *śe(-j). Cognate with Proto-Mordvinic *śä (whence Erzya се (se), Moksha ся (sä); final vowel perhaps by analogy with Proto-Mordvinic *tä) and possibly Proto-Khanty *ćī (whence Northern Khanty [script needed] (śi); the Khanty comparison is rejected by Kallio on basis of it relying on Proto-Uralic *ć, which Kallio remarks as likely of secondary origin, but debate on Proto-Uralic *ć ~ *ś still continues). Following Kallio (2020), the Finnic forms may have originally had a final *-j. This would explain the inessive *siinä and elative *siitä as deriving from earlier *sej-nä and *sej-tä, containing the same suffixes that, combined with *-s-, are found in the regular endings of the inessive (*-ssa < *-s-na) and the elative (*-sta < *-s-ta). The vowel would have been shortened in many other forms to simply *si- (specifically, *sej- > *si- originally in closed syllables); the essive *sinä and partitive *sitä (ultimately containing the same suffixes as the inessive and elative, respectively) have come about after this, and thus contain a short vowel. The genitive form (closed syllable) has *sej- > *se- due to its monosyllabic nature, and the nominative is likely analogous to it. *sei as the original form could also explain the Livonian development somewhat better. Later analogy between the stems *se- ~ *si- ~ *sii- has further blurred the development, and this demonstrative pronoun goes under even more analogy in many descendants. Etymology templates: {{inh|urj-fin-pro|urj-pro|*śe|*śe(-j)}} Proto-Uralic *śe(-j), {{cog|urj-mdv-pro|*śä}} Proto-Mordvinic *śä, {{cog|myv|се}} Erzya се (se), {{cog|mdf|ся}} Moksha ся (sä), {{cog|urj-mdv-pro|*tä}} Proto-Mordvinic *tä, {{cog|kca-pro|*ćī}} Proto-Khanty *ćī, {{cog|kca-nor|tr=śi}} Northern Khanty [script needed] (śi), {{m+|urj-pro||*ć}} Proto-Uralic *ć, {{m+|urj-pro||*ć}} Proto-Uralic *ć Head templates: {{head|urj-fin-pro|determiners|plural|*nek}} *se (plural *nek) Inflection templates: {{urj-fin-decl|se}} Forms: nek [plural], no-table-tags [table-tags], se [nominative, singular], nek [nominative, plural], sen [accusative, singular], nek [accusative, plural], sen [genitive, singular], neden [genitive, plural], neiden [genitive, plural], niiden [genitive, plural], sitä [partitive, singular], neitä [partitive, plural], niitä [partitive, plural], siinä [inessive, singular], neissä [inessive, plural], neihnä [inessive, plural], niissä [inessive, plural], niihnä [inessive, plural], siitä [elative, singular], neistä [elative, plural], niistä [elative, plural], sihen [illative, singular], siihen [illative, singular], neisen [illative, plural], niisen [illative, plural], sillä [adessive, singular], neillä [adessive, plural], niillä [adessive, plural], siltä [ablative, singular], neiltä [ablative, plural], niiltä [ablative, plural], silen [allative, singular], silek [allative, singular], neilen [allative, plural], neilek [allative, plural], niilen [allative, plural], niilek [allative, plural], sinä [essive, singular], neinä [essive, plural], niinä [essive, plural], siksi [singular, translative], neiksi [plural, translative], niiksi [plural, translative], sen [instructive, singular], nein [instructive, plural], niin [instructive, plural], sinek [comitative, singular], neinek [comitative, plural], niinek [comitative, plural], sittä [abessive, singular], neittä [abessive, plural], niittä [abessive, plural]
  1. that (medial?) Tags: reconstruction
    Sense id: en-se-urj-fin-pro-det-ZLewUVjl Categories (other): Proto-Finnic pronouns Disambiguation of Proto-Finnic pronouns: 100 0
The following are not (yet) sense-disambiguated
Categories (other): Proto-Finnic determiners, Proto-Finnic entries with incorrect language header, Proto-Finnic nominals by type/short monosyllable Disambiguation of Proto-Finnic determiners: 0 0 Disambiguation of Proto-Finnic entries with incorrect language header: 0 0 Disambiguation of Proto-Finnic nominals by type/short monosyllable: 0 0

Pronoun

Forms: nek [plural]
Etymology: From Proto-Uralic *śe(-j). Cognate with Proto-Mordvinic *śä (whence Erzya се (se), Moksha ся (sä); final vowel perhaps by analogy with Proto-Mordvinic *tä) and possibly Proto-Khanty *ćī (whence Northern Khanty [script needed] (śi); the Khanty comparison is rejected by Kallio on basis of it relying on Proto-Uralic *ć, which Kallio remarks as likely of secondary origin, but debate on Proto-Uralic *ć ~ *ś still continues). Following Kallio (2020), the Finnic forms may have originally had a final *-j. This would explain the inessive *siinä and elative *siitä as deriving from earlier *sej-nä and *sej-tä, containing the same suffixes that, combined with *-s-, are found in the regular endings of the inessive (*-ssa < *-s-na) and the elative (*-sta < *-s-ta). The vowel would have been shortened in many other forms to simply *si- (specifically, *sej- > *si- originally in closed syllables); the essive *sinä and partitive *sitä (ultimately containing the same suffixes as the inessive and elative, respectively) have come about after this, and thus contain a short vowel. The genitive form (closed syllable) has *sej- > *se- due to its monosyllabic nature, and the nominative is likely analogous to it. *sei as the original form could also explain the Livonian development somewhat better. Later analogy between the stems *se- ~ *si- ~ *sii- has further blurred the development, and this demonstrative pronoun goes under even more analogy in many descendants. Etymology templates: {{inh|urj-fin-pro|urj-pro|*śe|*śe(-j)}} Proto-Uralic *śe(-j), {{cog|urj-mdv-pro|*śä}} Proto-Mordvinic *śä, {{cog|myv|се}} Erzya се (se), {{cog|mdf|ся}} Moksha ся (sä), {{cog|urj-mdv-pro|*tä}} Proto-Mordvinic *tä, {{cog|kca-pro|*ćī}} Proto-Khanty *ćī, {{cog|kca-nor|tr=śi}} Northern Khanty [script needed] (śi), {{m+|urj-pro||*ć}} Proto-Uralic *ć, {{m+|urj-pro||*ć}} Proto-Uralic *ć Head templates: {{head|urj-fin-pro|pronouns|plural|*nek}} *se (plural *nek)
  1. it (medial?) Tags: reconstruction
    Sense id: en-se-urj-fin-pro-pron-4txwhDZR
The following are not (yet) sense-disambiguated
Categories (other): Proto-Finnic determiners, Proto-Finnic entries with incorrect language header, Proto-Finnic nominals by type/short monosyllable Disambiguation of Proto-Finnic determiners: 0 0 Disambiguation of Proto-Finnic entries with incorrect language header: 0 0 Disambiguation of Proto-Finnic nominals by type/short monosyllable: 0 0
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        "it (medial?)"
      ],
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        [
          "it",
          "it"
        ]
      ],
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        "reconstruction"
      ]
    }
  ],
  "word": "se"
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      "lang": "Estonian",
      "lang_code": "et",
      "word": "see"
    },
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      "lang_code": "fi",
      "word": "se"
    },
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      ],
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    },
    {
      "lang": "Ingrian",
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      "word": "se"
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      "lang": "Ingrian",
      "lang_code": "izh",
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        {
          "lang": "North Karelian",
          "lang_code": "krl",
          "word": "še"
        },
        {
          "lang": "South Karelian",
          "lang_code": "krl",
          "word": "še"
        },
        {
          "lang": "South Karelian",
          "lang_code": "krl",
          "word": "se"
        }
      ],
      "lang": "Karelian",
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    },
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      "word": "se"
    },
    {
      "lang": "Livvi",
      "lang_code": "olo",
      "word": "se"
    },
    {
      "lang": "Ludian",
      "lang_code": "lud",
      "word": "se"
    },
    {
      "lang": "Veps",
      "lang_code": "vep",
      "word": "se"
    },
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      "args": {
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      "expansion": "Proto-Uralic *ć",
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  "etymology_text": "From Proto-Uralic *śe(-j). Cognate with Proto-Mordvinic *śä (whence Erzya се (se), Moksha ся (sä); final vowel perhaps by analogy with Proto-Mordvinic *tä) and possibly Proto-Khanty *ćī (whence Northern Khanty [script needed] (śi); the Khanty comparison is rejected by Kallio on basis of it relying on Proto-Uralic *ć, which Kallio remarks as likely of secondary origin, but debate on Proto-Uralic *ć ~ *ś still continues).\nFollowing Kallio (2020), the Finnic forms may have originally had a final *-j. This would explain the inessive *siinä and elative *siitä as deriving from earlier *sej-nä and *sej-tä, containing the same suffixes that, combined with *-s-, are found in the regular endings of the inessive (*-ssa < *-s-na) and the elative (*-sta < *-s-ta). The vowel would have been shortened in many other forms to simply *si- (specifically, *sej- > *si- originally in closed syllables); the essive *sinä and partitive *sitä (ultimately containing the same suffixes as the inessive and elative, respectively) have come about after this, and thus contain a short vowel. The genitive form (closed syllable) has *sej- > *se- due to its monosyllabic nature, and the nominative is likely analogous to it. *sei as the original form could also explain the Livonian development somewhat better.\nLater analogy between the stems *se- ~ *si- ~ *sii- has further blurred the development, and this demonstrative pronoun goes under even more analogy in many descendants.",
  "forms": [
    {
      "form": "nek",
      "tags": [
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "no-table-tags",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "table-tags"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "urj-fin-decl",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "inflection-template"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "se",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "nominative",
        "singular"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "nek",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "nominative",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "sen",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "accusative",
        "singular"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "nek",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "accusative",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "sen",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "genitive",
        "singular"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "neden",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "genitive",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "neiden",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "genitive",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "niiden",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "genitive",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "sitä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "partitive",
        "singular"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "neitä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "partitive",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "niitä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "partitive",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "siinä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "inessive",
        "singular"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "neissä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "inessive",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "neihnä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "inessive",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "niissä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "inessive",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "niihnä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "inessive",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "siitä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "elative",
        "singular"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "neistä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "elative",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "niistä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "elative",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "sihen",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "illative",
        "singular"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "siihen",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "illative",
        "singular"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "neisen",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "illative",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "niisen",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "illative",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "sillä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "adessive",
        "singular"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "neillä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "adessive",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "niillä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "adessive",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "siltä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "ablative",
        "singular"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "neiltä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "ablative",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "niiltä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "ablative",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "silen",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "allative",
        "singular"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "silek",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "allative",
        "singular"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "neilen",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "allative",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "neilek",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "allative",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "niilen",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "allative",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "niilek",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "allative",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "sinä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "essive",
        "singular"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "neinä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "essive",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "niinä",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "essive",
        "plural"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "siksi",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "singular",
        "translative"
      ]
    },
    {
      "form": "neiksi",
      "source": "inflection",
      "tags": [
        "plural",
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      "form": "neinä",
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      "form": "niiksi",
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      "form": "sinek",
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}

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