"þiðinn" meaning in Old Norse

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Adjective

Etymology: A derivative of Proto-Germanic *þīdaz, from Proto-Indo-European *teyh₁- (“to melt”). Related to Proto-Germanic *þainaz (“moist, damp, wet”). Etymology templates: {{der|non|gem-pro|*þīdaz}} Proto-Germanic *þīdaz, {{der|non|ine-pro|*teyh₁-|t=to melt}} Proto-Indo-European *teyh₁- (“to melt”), {{cog|gem-pro|*þainaz|t=moist, damp, wet}} Proto-Germanic *þainaz (“moist, damp, wet”) Head templates: {{head|non|adjectives|head=}} þiðinn, {{non-adj}} þiðinn Inflection templates: {{non-decl-cell|þiðinn|nsm|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðin|nsf|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðint|nsn|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnan|asm|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðna|asf|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðint|asn|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnum|dsm|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðinni|dsf|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnu|dsn|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðins|gsm|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðinnar|gsf|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðins|gsn|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnir|npm|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnar|npf|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðin|npn|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðna|apm|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnar|apf|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðin|apn|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnum|dp|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnum|dp|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnum|dp|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðinna|gp|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðinna|gp|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðinna|gp|str}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðni|nsm|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðna|nsf|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðna|nsn|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðna|asm|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnu|asf|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðna|asn|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðna|dsm|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnu|dsf|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðna|dsn|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðna|gsm|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnu|gsf|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðna|gsn|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnu|npm|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnu|npf|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnu|npn|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnu|apm|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnu|apf|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnu|apn|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnum|dp|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnum|dp|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnum|dp|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnu|gp|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnu|gp|wk}}, {{non-decl-cell|þiðnu|gp|wk}}
  1. thawed, free from ice Derived forms: þiðna (english: to thaw) Related terms: þíða
    Sense id: en-þiðinn-non-adj-mHO2p-Yn Categories (other): Old Norse entries with incorrect language header, Pages with 1 entry, Pages with entries
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        "1": "þiðna",
        "2": "nsf",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðna",
        "2": "nsn",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðna",
        "2": "asm",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðnu",
        "2": "asf",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðna",
        "2": "asn",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðna",
        "2": "dsm",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðnu",
        "2": "dsf",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðna",
        "2": "dsn",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðna",
        "2": "gsm",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðnu",
        "2": "gsf",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðna",
        "2": "gsn",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðnu",
        "2": "npm",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðnu",
        "2": "npf",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðnu",
        "2": "npn",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðnu",
        "2": "apm",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðnu",
        "2": "apf",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðnu",
        "2": "apn",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðnum",
        "2": "dp",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðnum",
        "2": "dp",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðnum",
        "2": "dp",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðnu",
        "2": "gp",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðnu",
        "2": "gp",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    },
    {
      "args": {
        "1": "þiðnu",
        "2": "gp",
        "3": "wk"
      },
      "name": "non-decl-cell"
    }
  ],
  "lang": "Old Norse",
  "lang_code": "non",
  "pos": "adj",
  "related": [
    {
      "word": "þíða"
    }
  ],
  "senses": [
    {
      "categories": [
        "Old Norse adjectives",
        "Old Norse entries with incorrect language header",
        "Old Norse lemmas",
        "Old Norse terms derived from Proto-Germanic",
        "Old Norse terms derived from Proto-Indo-European",
        "Pages with 1 entry",
        "Pages with entries"
      ],
      "glosses": [
        "thawed, free from ice"
      ],
      "links": [
        [
          "thawed",
          "thawed"
        ],
        [
          "free",
          "free"
        ],
        [
          "ice",
          "ice"
        ]
      ]
    }
  ],
  "word": "þiðinn"
}

Download raw JSONL data for þiðinn meaning in Old Norse (5.5kB)

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  "msg": "HTML tag <div> not properly closed",
  "path": [
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  "section": "Old Norse",
  "subsection": "adjective",
  "title": "þiðinn",
  "trace": "started on line 2, detected on line 5"
}

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