"chop logic" meaning in English

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Adjective

Head templates: {{en-adj|-}} chop logic (not comparable)
  1. (of an argument, sometimes hyphenated) Characterized by equivocation or by overly complex or specious argumentation; improperly reasoned. Tags: not-comparable Synonyms: choplogical, illogical
    Sense id: en-chop_logic-en-adj-zMGn8VIE

Noun

Forms: chop logics [plural]
Head templates: {{en-noun}} chop logic (plural chop logics)
  1. (uncountable, sometimes hyphenated) Chopped logic: reasoning which is improper; sophistry. Tags: uncountable Synonyms: chop-logic, choplogic [adjective, noun]
    Sense id: en-chop_logic-en-noun-HNfQf3pR
  2. (obsolete, countable, usually hyphenated) A logic chopper: one who makes confusing or specious arguments, especially arguments involving equivocation. Tags: countable, obsolete
    Sense id: en-chop_logic-en-noun-rNLuF-cs

Verb

Forms: chops logic [present, singular, third-person], chopping logic [participle, present], chopped logic [participle, past], chopped logic [past]
Head templates: {{en-verb|*}} chop logic (third-person singular simple present chops logic, present participle chopping logic, simple past and past participle chopped logic)
  1. (obsolete) To talk back, bandy words; to argue generally. Tags: obsolete
    Sense id: en-chop_logic-en-verb-jhJsZIjU Categories (other): English entries with incorrect language header, English predicates, Pages with 1 entry, Pages with entries Disambiguation of English entries with incorrect language header: 10 4 26 36 15 9 Disambiguation of English predicates: 8 18 15 28 17 14 Disambiguation of Pages with 1 entry: 10 4 26 36 15 8 Disambiguation of Pages with entries: 10 3 26 37 15 9
  2. To argue skillfully, using complex logic or clever reasoning. Derived forms: logic chopping
    Sense id: en-chop_logic-en-verb-CWcT3Iq2
  3. To make an argument which is illogical, especially one which is overly complex or which improperly uses fine or clever distinctions; to equivocate.
    Sense id: en-chop_logic-en-verb-AsGn8PQM

Inflected forms

Alternative forms

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This page is a part of the kaikki.org machine-readable English dictionary. This dictionary is based on structured data extracted on 2025-01-10 from the enwiktionary dump dated 2025-01-01 using wiktextract (df33d17 and 4ed51a5). The data shown on this site has been post-processed and various details (e.g., extra categories) removed, some information disambiguated, and additional data merged from other sources. See the raw data download page for the unprocessed wiktextract data.

If you use this data in academic research, please cite Tatu Ylonen: Wiktextract: Wiktionary as Machine-Readable Structured Data, Proceedings of the 13th Conference on Language Resources and Evaluation (LREC), pp. 1317-1325, Marseille, 20-25 June 2022. Linking to the relevant page(s) under https://kaikki.org would also be greatly appreciated.